Don Gately —“I see you jumped straight to roundabout…”— I see you jumped straight to abrahamic lying. Answer the question: “define a god without reference to properties”?
DG: The Objection:
—“Properties are reserved for matter and not gods [properties are limited to matter.]”—
CD: The Falsification
“define a god without reference to properties”
Supported by: Language: Reference(name), Properties (necessary), Attributes(tangential), Where all properties and attributes must be conveyed by analogy to experience (measurement).
References (Names), their Properties (measurements), and Attributes (measurements) are references to sets of human experiences (measurements) used to describe the reference. One cannot testify to (measure) the impossible to experience (measure with human sense, perception, auto-association, prediction-imagination, action ).
The Sophism (Deceit):
The attempt by DG to:
… (a) claim the un-referenceable can be referenced
… (b) claim properties are of references rather than human measurements of the perception of references.
… (c) claim that the reference to the operations (measurements) are somehow non-correspondent, inflationary, or conflationary.
The Origin of the Sophism (Deceit):
Training (indoctrination) in the Abrahamic method of deceit. A method developed for the social construction of false promise, baiting individuals and groups into hazard, just like drug dealers seek to make addicts to what they sell.
If you want to live your life according to the actions and ambitions of Jesus (and the four-or-five demands upon you that makes) that will generally work out well for you because it’s a hyper investment in cooperation especially as your competence moves left of the median of the distribution. But stop trying to justify it with supernatural lies. The reason you demand those lies is indoctrination and addiction into a set of paradigms that do not correspond to existential religion and the physical, natural, and evolutionary laws of the universe are so that you can addict others, as you are addicted, and limit the continuous falsification of your socially constructed illusion. There is no difference between Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and alcohol, drug, sex, risky behavior addiction. They are equal means of sedation. The difference is that while the forgiveness of Jesus and the exhaustion of trust will end familism, tribalism, and corruption, and prepare a people for a majority middle class economy under rule of law, that preparation comes at a cost of the Abrahamic method of deceit destroying the minds of Jewish, Christian, and Islamic addicts.
Jesus was a faith healer (scam artist) who was legitimately exasperated by the condition of the underclass given the predation of their own (jews), they’re being left behind by new roman rule, economy, and prosperity, the failure of their religion and myth to compete with the coming ‘modernity’, the failure of their leadership (once again) to modernize (give scamming), and their low status, and even lower status under that new, wealthier, more metropolitan, better-educated civilization (where you are a freeman, a citizen or slave (domesticated animal). Just like the bottom justifiably feels left behind today – both left and right. The people of Palestine were today’s favela-dwellers. And like today’s Islamists resist surrender of their addiction, those people resisted the surrender of their addictions. (Roman religion was nothing more than loyalty and duty attestation, and xians considered atheists).
Abrahamic religion is a threat to mankind. Xianity invented by Paul is not Jesus’ teachings – which can be written on three sheets of paper, and reduced to four sentences – but an attempt to replace the heroic narrative of the Epic Cycle with the anti-hero (victimhood) of Jesus.
So learn to testify, and learn how not to lie.
Truth built everything good in the west.
Truth is enough to restore it.
No More Lies.