—“Hey Curt sorry to be a nuisance, I have so many questions and concerns about propertarianism. I truly want it to work and to make it grow. Buy maybe it’s me over thinking or seeing things that are not there, but let me ask straight out.
1. Is propertarianism a white supremacist movement?
2. Is it a Fascist form of Government?
3. Will people be Slaves under it?
I ask because I see stuff that gives credibility to those questions but then I also see stuff from you and john that tend to counter that. I’ve pledged my support and my guns to you but I need to be able to counter these kinds of questions when talking to people as well as in my own mind. You are an amazing man Curt I truly appreciate your time and what your doing. Thank you for you time.”—
It’s none of those things.
If I call propertarianism “the scientific and logical articulation of the traditional ancestral natural law of the european peoples” does that answer your question?
Propertarianism consists of:
1) A methodology that completes the scientific method merging all the logics, sciences, narratives, and deceits into a universally commensurable language. In other words, we describe all existence as one continuous language (paradigm, vocabular, gramma) using operational language (semantics). This produces a universal system of measurement across all disciplines. (it solves EO Wilson’s predicted Wilsonian Synthesis)
2) A methodology for writing constitutions and laws in that language. With this methodology you can produce ANY political social and economic order you desire as long as you do so truthfully and reciprocally.
3) An explanation of the reason for western civilization’s disproportionate success at evolution in relation to other civilizations – that explanation is our accidental development of the most adaptive civilization that is possible for human beings to construct: soverignty.
4) A constitutional template that would restore that disproportionate success by reversing the harms against our civilization in the 19th and 20th centuries – largely by the second jewish revolt against civilization that we call marxism, socialism, feminism, postmodernism, social construction, and denialism.
5) That constitution allows the formation of many small states under a common military and judicial defense of the ’empire’ that each produce different social orders within that natural law constitution.
6) Some of those social orders will be separatist (by race) and some will not. Some will be conservative (middle) and some will be consumptive (liberal, top and bottom).
7) So propertarianism isn’t ANY ideology, it’s a means of creating political systems and separating by political system as suits our preference – markets in everything – just as was possible throughout european history.
So if you were to ask me if european civilization is superior to all others then the answer is empirically yes. If you ask me if european genome is superior to others than empirically yes, except for perhaps our fragile skin, and vulnerability to deception by the abrahamic method of deceit. If you ask me if I want to live (myself) in an homogenous ethnostate, but would like to visit other ethnostates, then the answer would be yes. If you ask me if every group of people should – if any such “should” exists – be granted reciprocal rights to self determination presuming they pay the cost and consequences of it, then yes. Because that is the natural law.
Propertarianism is just science expanded from the physical sciences to all sciences, including psychological, social, economic, political, and group evolutionary. Propertarianism completes the scientific method and allows us to use that science for producing social orders that suit our interests: polities as PRODUCTS.
Now if you understand this but disagree with it then you are absolutely positively a bad person and a threat to humankind and I will, and my people will, try to remove you and that threat you pose to human kind.
There is no more moral objective above this, because this is simply the optimum evolutionary strategy available to man, with the optimum freedom available to man – at the attendant cost of one’s choices.
The only alternative to P’s political solution is parasitism, predation, and war.
Which I’m fine with because frankly, we are really, really good at war.
So to answer questions:
1. “Is propertarianism a white supremacist movement?”
Propertarianism allows all movements to separate into states that pursue the interests of their people as long as they do not externalize the costs of their choices.
One of those choices will obviously be some number of ethnostates each claiming superiority.
2. “Is it a Fascist form of Government? “
(a) There is no definition of fascist other than intolerant, conformist, ethnic, nationalist, with greater emphasis on state investment in capital intensive industries that prohibits political competition to replace that form of organization. China is a fascist state. But it is also a deceptive state. The Italians and the nazis were not deceptive states they said exactly what they were doing and why. If you want to built an intolerant conformist ethnic nationalist state with greater emphasis on state investment in capital intensive industries using propertarian method of law, then you can. You just can’t do it deceptively. All china would have to do is be honest like the Italians and Germans. Russia is sort of half way honest. But is still a resource harvester not an industrial country.
(b) The constitution I have recommended is intolerant of competition against the political organization because as far as I know there is no possible competitor to that organization that is not a violation of natural law. That’s why I call it ‘perfect government’. This government is flexible in that it can switch between authoritarian in war, republican in growth, and redistributive in windfalls. The law is intolerant because it prohibits irreciprocal display word and deed, so it reduces one’s freedom to propagandize, bend the truth, lie, cheat, fraud, bait into hazard in public, to the public, in matters public. In other words you must be more careful making truth or good claims. This constitution also suppresses all the means by which our people have been lied to over the twentieth century((())). So it would crush the financial, advertising, media, entertainment, academic, and political sectors and transfer all our efforts in those sectors to non-parasitic, non-false, objectives – productivity rather tan parasitism. the result will be a new renaissance as capital is directed to truthful and reciprocal production.
- “Will people be Slaves under it?”
Prisoners are in slavery.
Soldiers are in indentured servitude.
WPA (nationalized work force) are in indentured servitude.
Unionized and State Directed labor is in serfdom.
Dependents have freedom
People with capital have liberty
Some people have sufficient capital that they are at least functionally sovereign.
Chattel slavery (involuntary) is irreciprocal.
Indentured servitude exchanges responsibility for room and board for directed labor, minimal pay, and no right of exit.
The question is this: should we tolerate indentured servitude?
We do in public affairs (the military). But should we in private affairs? It is not irreciprocal, and if people did so voluntarily it is hard to say no. The problem is in modernity almost no one could afford indentured servants. So it is an unlikely question.
So in the sense you mean “are there chattel slaves” then the answer is a rather obvious no.